3 British social media specialists actively involved in politics

Parallel Session II: Parties, campaigns and representation: the political impact of blogs and social media

Panellists:

Iain Dale, Ian Dale’s Diary

Andrew Rasiej, Personal Democracy Forum

Matthew McGregor, Blue State Digital

Chair: Helen Margetts, Oxford University

The outcome of political careers and even campaigns is increasingly dependent on the successful mastery of new communication tools including social media. Many MPs and members of Congress are embracing the use of social networking tools to keep in touch with their constituents, whilst Facebook, YouTube and even Twitter have potentially changed the nature of election campaigns in reaching out directly to grass-roots supporters, with the recent US presidential campaign also showing how effective these tools might be in raising funds. At the same time, it is not clear whether these tools are likely to prove effective in engaging any voters except those who are already interested in politics, or whether their apparent ‘democratisation’ of traditional party structures is to be believed.

Andrew Rasiej

Talking about how the Democratic Party learned about ‘sociable’ media (before YouTube etc.)  Now 9/10 political videos are generated by voters not politicians.  Ecology of politics has changed.

Matthew McGregor

Develop a strategy before launching into tools.  British vs American politics.  No rock star politician.  Engagement – real relationship – two way, transparent, authentic.   Forward movement  – transparent [interesting definition].   Use of Bo.com to protest against BO.  Hope not hate – giving a say, things to do, resources to use  Did I hear 125K to 800K.  Putting people to work.    Online tools on bo.com allowing us to call from home.  Comm Worker Union – helped them engage with TNT ees directly to protest takeover of Royal Mail.  Be part of the process.  No ghost writers.  Timely.  Action oriented.  Ppl don’t want to be passive recipients.   Boring on TV is boring on YouTube.  Social media is not a panacea for  problems faced by politicians.

Iain Dale

Politicians don’t know their RSS from their elbow.

A politician has a blog [!] [hopefully not the one I read!].  All 3 parties do not understand – they transmit.  The B N P do it seems.

News might originate created on internet and are likely to be negative.  Fail to understand they can bypass mainstream internet.

Conservative Party now requires campaigning and exposure to open caucuses.  Existing blogs are useful.  Likely to be the difference between being selected or not.  [But would it be enough?].  Email still the most important.  Ppl easily contactable by email now.  16000 constituents important.

Parties may try to get bloggers to do negative campaining -do dirty work for them.  Quoting the Cons Speech against Brown in EU parliament [gee, that made me think Conservatives don’t have a clue]

All large public purchases will be put on internet.

Questions

City Uni.  : Commenting BO campaign up-down or down-up.  Matthew McGregor – autonomy to organize own events.  And marked with red (staff) blue (volunteers).  Most people don’t see red pins <5%.  In Britain, worried whether all sorts of people would turn out.  But not direct democracy – BO listens but doesn’t take direction.

Helen Magretts: ?

AR. Bottom up and top down not exclusive.  Material spread because ppl want to spread it.   Flood the zone -he with most links wins.  Empower supporters to run campaigns on his behalf.

Iain Dale.

Political parties exist because  they want to dominate.  But opinion on internet cannot be dominated.

… McCarthy ..  new media chief … 2000 followers on Twitter.

?? Life after death for Howard Dean .  .. has read the 1200 page health bill.  Any resurrection  .  .

Andrew R.   Hasn’t really embraced the internet. Internet is a reflection of what happens in  real life.

Matthew McGregor.  Howard Dean didn’t spend a lot of time on internet himself but got resources to put tools in hands in the “states”.  Got ppl engaged online and gave them the tools to go offline.

Iain Dale.

John Redgwood -blog on world economic crisis. Several posts a aday.  Blog is a platform.

Andrew R.

Howard Dean would be a leader if he demanded the health bill was put on line.

Question

?? Negative politics.

Iain Dale.  Somebody trying to use bloggers to spread rumours.  Exercised [moral imagination] and comment/debates was positive.

Matthew McGregor.  Try to help people find information they need.  Direct people to the right site and have tools to use.

Help people get to the right information.

Lib Dem tried to use these tactics negatively.

Question

??  Media studies in Unis approached sociologically and psychologically.   Only 50% voted last time.   Politicians tried to by pass media.  What’s new?

Andrew R.  Political parties must become media organizations.   Moderate turnout is a function of education as much as politics. Politicians target just those who will vote.

Iain Dale.  61% last time.  People also knew who would win.  Higher turnout expected. 450 people turned up to an open caucus.  [ Seems to be big for Bedford and were mobilized by  a candiate of a ‘minority’ candidate.]  If big donations will be banned, where will money come from?  BO’s great success was raising money.  Hard to donate to political parties in UK.

Andrew.  BO also raised a lot of money traditionally. Must build community first.

Iain.  Sponsored diet by blog readers.  5K.

Chair: Blog isn’t formal.

Matthew : just because parties are bad at it, doesn’t mean that it won’t be successful.

Andrew.  Ron Paul. Made donations public in real time.

Questions.

Disadvantaged consumers.  Third sector -what can it learn from polticians.

Burlesconi [sp?] – must continue to campaign.  2 universes – campaigning mode –

Andrew -govt must be present where we are – on the internet [and elsewhere] BO is using scarcity media.  Needs to build dialogue as he did during the campaign.   only thing that needs to change is must change email address.

Iain Dale.  NGO’s -directors don’t have blogs.

Matthew – charities – don’t just ask for money -should then ask for story – emotional investment – emotional attachment.  Don’t see peopelas ATM’s.

Co

Academics begin by dismissing the democratic potential of social media and end there?

Social media, so what? Assessing the impact of blogs and social media

Panelists:

Stefan Niggemeier, BILDblog

Evgeny Morozov, Georgetown University

Matthew Hindman, Arizona State University

Richard Allan, Facebook

Chair: Sandra Gonzalez-Bailon, Oxford University

Theorists such as Yochai Benkler have suggested that the accessibility and inherently social nature of Web 2.0 tools such as blogs, social networking and wikis mean that we might expect them to enhance our democratic freedoms through the opening of new channels for debate and collaboration. Academic research suggests that such new opportunities have not been equally taken up, and that in many areas, new social media are simply being used by old ‘elites’. At the same time, blogs and social media are having significant effect in enhancing accountability and transparency, particularly in repressive regimes like Burma and China. This session will ask whether we should be so quick to dismiss the socially egalitarian and politically democratic potential of social media or whether there might equally be more mundane but significant social impacts which have so far been ignored.

Missed beginning with internet problems.  People kicking the benches.  Photographers blinding us with flashes.  No work getting done here.

Evgeny Morozov:  From Belarus – some countries getting more democratic.  Some activists and NCG’s becoming more effective.

Impact of internet – what about people who are not activists.  All political forces are using it.  Can find connections of dissidents online.  Access doesn’t make people aspire for democracy.  [Why should it?  Technological determinism?]  Says refrain from technological determinism?  [Straw man?]

Richard Allan:  Potential vs reality.  Political practitioner.  Audience had left the building.  Political class optimistic.  Cyberutopia just that.

Apps that allow ppl to have ongoing deeper relationships beyond challenge-response of a blog.   Afffordancies from a political view.

Early social media : pubs (bars) online.  Bars develop a specific character. Talking to the same people.  People could come in but don’t.

Now: Festival.  Arrive with like-minded people but reach out and meet new people and discover new ideas.  At a Festival, we spend time in the music tents not the side shows.  But side shows can arrive and develop novel connections.  Entertainment also still trumps politics.  Can we use social media to expand our networks in novel ways.

Matthew Hindman: Access, openess, public sphere – most people say there are low barriers to entry.  Monopolies -high fixed costs, low variable costs.  Economics on internet are far less forgiving.   What has Google spent on intrastrucutre on R&D.  By end of 2010, Google will have cost more than the Manhattan project. Web has many new niches but saturate quickly.    What is cost of Amazon?  In any established niche, fixed cost are very high.    Choke points.

Who uses the technologies – may onto existing . . .

Democratization – messy business – no technology can make all the values better at once. American public sphere currently very exclusionary – gatekeepers different but disproportionately male, white, highly educated.    Internet does not reach people who take their lunch pail to work.

Marketplace of ideas is more ferocious than ever – imperfect ways of addressing.

Deliberation vs coordination.

View of BO campaign -networks ran centrally rather than distributed.  Disintermediating politicians.

BO won Ohio with much more effective statistical targetting & political history – won in Republican areas of state.  Done by elites.

SGB:

Unintended consequences.  Most important unintended consequences.

Stefan Niggemeier:  Use tools to own end.  Use for spam or evil things.   Don’t think in UiC.  To start internet company can be difficult, but so much easier to be heard.    Know it doesn’t happen all the time.

Matthew Hindman:  Traditional media you will be heard.  Publish on internet you may not be heard.  You do not have to ask permission -you need to catch the attention of a big blogger.    Many possible patrons but still need one.   Some groups are not on line – trade unions and conservative religious not on  line.

Production more open but filtering is not more open.  [push pull issues here??]

Evgeny Morozov. Social media helps repressive media – selective about response.

[Some give and take by panel as I am distracted by media problems again]

Matthew Hindman.  Example.

Question

??  Take focus away from minority -technologies exacerbate divide.  96% of Africa no way of expressing themselves.

MT: Mobile phones in Africa.  Half of Africa can be reached by cell phone.

Richard Allen.  Less interesting in library and more in conversation.  Advantages of being part of conversation (yes or no)?

BBC: Blogs, crimes and national security.

Evgeny Morozov.  Sharing information on cyberattacks.   Need discussion of cyberviolence.   Govt is going pursuing national security agenda – most done by individuals for non-criminal reasons.

Question.

?? Synthesis – social mediators –  what I can do on line?  Seeing emergence of new intermediation.  What do people do with what we do online?

Question.

??  Unintended consequences.   What do panel think about real time public scrutiny has affected public debate?

Answers: ? Citizen expectations that we would move toward direct representation – Richard Allan prefers representational politics.  EM – healthcare debate – 70% discuss myths and then media comes in.   [ confused – Palin talked about death panels to win not to be accurate].

MH clearest result of real time scrutiny has bee higher polarization.  Opinion transformation has been transformed.

Would you improve debate by seeing Twitter stream?  Stefan yes.

Question.

??  Politics is tired in UK.  Polis on line has been  failure.  Is discussing social media a smoke-screen?  Is overestimating social media undermining social media?

MH.  Cable news – most people started consuming less news, some more news, distribution changed.  Lower voter participation [cause and EM: effect?].  Inequality about what people know about politics.  Politics is small part what we do online .25% [demographic s?]

EM: Slacktavism.

Richard Allan.  Is what you are saying on line immediate and significant when they engage?  Electorate are smart.  Voters ignore politics when it is not relevant.  Not tools and issue.

Closing . . .

Very ragged.  Restless meeting struggling with intermittent internet.